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    The time with Brahma Kumaris

    In 1991 I had extreme back problems, so I was searching a Yoga Group in my town. I had to stop with my job, so I had less money. Actually at this time I had not much knowledge about Yoga.
    I was driving with my car, then I saw a sign on a house " Meditation and Raja Yoga School"
    I didn't know that this was the Brahma Kumaris Sect-
    I made an appointment and I was surprised to get to know that the yoga lessons are for free, just for donation. I was a little bit disappointed that there were no hatha yoga exercises, but the teacher told me that I have to take more care about my soul..........
    So I made the course of 10 Chapters, the whole philosophy about Brahma Kumaris.
    In the meditation hall there was a lamp hanging on the wall in the form of an egg and you had to concentrate on the middle of the light, fokusing on your third eye. From the beginning I could feel an vibration in the third eye and my teacher told me, that this is the connection to Baba, the supreme soul. This vibration was just like a drug for me.
    So I was thinking, wow what a great effect and my teacher told me, that I'm a special soul.
    My teacher was very strict, and there was no sex allowed, he always said when you are horny take a cold shower!
    He said you are not the body only the soul. So in this time I was fully denying my body and feelings like anger, hate or jealousy.
    I had to practise virtues, starting every morning 6 o clock with morning meditation in the center. Writing the words of the following lecture in a book, cause I was called a student.
    This lecture came from a holy woman from India, she was like a channel for the divine words of Baba the suprem soul, preparing you to become a pure soul. Because then you will come to the golden age. They always influenced everybody, that in the year of 2000 the world cycle will be finished and only the choosen ones will come to the golden age.
    I was not allowed to read any books or scriptures, or listen to any other music which is not from Brahma Kumaris. So I was selling all my old Rock and Blues Records, selling all my books, because this was all maya, illusion and bad energy.
    On one hand it was good cause in that time I was reading Castaneda, Crowley and Thimothy Leary, trying all kinds of drugs for to get a new consciousness.
    So I stopped smoking, drinking alcohol, eating meat, taking drugs........
    I also stopped to make my psychedilic music in my session band.
    I left all of my old friends and wanted to become a pure soul.......
    By the time I was so much influenced that I went in morning at 4 o clock and also at the same day to the evening meditation. I renovated also there the center, because I had no job.
    The students had to write every hour the time of meditation - soul connection- in a chart, the best chart was published in the center for the others.
    I was only alowed to eat in the center or to prepare my own food. I remember how hard it was for my mother that I didn't eat any of her lovley cooked food, when I was invited by her.
    It was only allowed to wear white cloths and not wear any leather cloths.
    My teacher fond in me a good student so I finsihed the class quickly and became meditation teacher, teaching beginners. I was also sitting on the stage in the meditation room giving the drishti -energy to the others.
    I remember once I wanted to have a walk with an older sister, but then my teacher said to me, that I should only walk with male persons. So in this way I was fully supressing my sexuality, because my aim was to come with them to Mount Abu, where the headquarter of Brahma Kumaris was. So after not even one year I came for my first time to India. Staying only in the Brahma Kumaris Ashrams.
    In Mount Abu was a hughe meditation center, of course male and female in different houses.
    Whole day meditation watching the egg form light, feeling the supreme soul............
    Then there was the special day then this old lady came on stage, talking with a deep voice like in trance, connected with the supreme soul as a channel. So everybody was in bliss, flying high.........

    When I came back home, I wanted to join the center. So again I was selling my last things......
    But then I met my Sitar Music Teacher and I wanted to become his disciple. So I said to my meditationteacher that I will be for three month not in the center. Then my teacher threat to me, that if I would do this, I will loose all my energy...........I'm just lost in hell......
    I was much afraid but my wish to learn indian sitar music was so strong, that thank GOD I could leave this sect.
    Afterwards I realized how much I was manipulated and brain washed. It took me a long time to love my body again and to accept all the feelings of myself.

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    Very interesting experiences indeed!
    I would be interested to know a bit more about this group. The Brahma Kumaris. I think I have heard sometime from a big meditation festival that was organized under this name but I am not sure.
    They are Indian people, aren't they? Are they following one guru? Or is this the holy woman that you are writing about?
    my teacher told me, that I'm a special soul.
    Love that you wrote that! Shows that you really found out how they got you: ego. and of course the search for a higher purpose.
    U R U - B real

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    I like to read your stories Thomas, sounds you have been pretty much in India and involved in many different sects. Is that right? What are you now? With which sect are you now? You wrote very nice story I would be interested to read bit more about that how you really came out from this sects? One more question, did they allow you to sleep with your girlfriend or you did not have a girlfriend when you were in this sect?

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    Further Informations about Brahma Kumaris you will find under:
    Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    At my time with Brahma Kumaris I was not allowed to have any relationships with woman, I was at this time single and lived in celbacy.
    My indian Sitar teacher was my help to come out of the sect. To learn music was stronger, than to become a holy soul...........So music saved me.........

    After many years I met this meditation teacher from Brahma Kumaris in the park. He was asking me, about my spiritual practise.
    I told him that I'm just living in the here and now. And I just showed him the beautiful ducks swiming on the lake and the blooming trees.
    He only laught about me, and said that I'm lost in illusion.
    But I'm so much happy to see GOD now in everything.
    So all the time when I was in this different sects music was my healer.
    Music never left me.
    Thats why I'm working today as a soundtherapist in a school for handicapped children and giving retreats in Vrindavan India:
    Spiritual retreats, yoga and ayurveda holidays, retreats in India

    I thank GOD that I'm in no sect and with no Guru.
    I have a nice wife and following the nada yoga, the way music. So birds are my Guru, or the whispering of a creek, the wind in the trees, or a children face. I just trust in life and love.
    Meditation is my daily life, cleaning dishes or cooking food, to sweep the yard, or to sit in silence with my friends.
    There is nothing to search, I just have to be silent, to listen to the sound of my heart.
    And the best pilgram place is the heart, here and now.
    So in this way I'm free to choose my own timing for meditation, it is just natural and more spontaneously.

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    Thanks Thomas, you, your story and your philosophy are really inspiring to me. Thank you for sharing. I saw your website and heard a bit of your music, didn't understand, but felt it good

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    About brahma kumaris

    hello thomas iam new to this site and i just read ur article on these brahma kumaris well iam very glad to read that finally u have tried to understand that what god is or what spirituality means, i also went to these brahma kumaris for nearly five years but i never get deeply involved to my skin with them infact i had arguments with the centre teacher about all the nonsense they explain to everybody, i will suggest u to listen to osho or read j krishnamuthy.

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    Once my friend (who attended brahma kumaris lectures earlier) took me and another common friend to a brahma kumari when I was searching for the Guru Whom I saw in my dreams. We had some satsang with her. She narrated about their organization and some chapters from Gita. Our common friend asked the meaning of a sloka (verse) from the chapter she was explaining. We both knew the meaning. But he tested her. Her answer was quite different from what was in the scripture. She was angry with me for I looked not into her eyes while she was explaining as she directed us to do, and asked my friend not to bring me to her again. I did not say any thing as I was not having a Guru. Then we left the place never to return. This was my experience way back in mid nineties.
    "I'd been timid and cold
    Since Your lotus feet gold
    My hands did hold
    I've become brave and bold"



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    I think not only these brahmakumaris but most of the so called meditation centres or religious centres what ever u name them they r all just doing one thing to use people fear and to make them more fearfull so pls dont try to find real guru instead try to become real student or disciple and the real guru will appear in front of u , u dont have to search him,i know quite a bit about these brahmakumaris because i knew them for 5 yrs personally.

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