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Reply With QuoteThat is just part of it.Originally Posted by Scorcho
It seems rather obvious to me that kundalini is nothing but suppression of the sex instinct which can lead to awakenings of the nervous system in the performance of yoga and meditation. All the spiritual jargon surrounding this phenomena strikes me as coming from the state of ignorance of the physical body and the influence of mysticism.
I would be interested to start a discussion about this to get other's POV and hear of their experiences. Is kundalini dangerous or merely unhealthy? Is kundalini good for you? Why do people not see it for what it is, ie orgasms without ejaculating?
That is just part of it.
Yes, you are quite right. I have changed my point of view on this issue since i wrote my original post. Kundalini means energy, consciousness and life. It manifests in different ways, for example purifying the body by making the body assume automatic positions and mudras etc. Since kundalini is just another word for life, it is limiting to say that it is just the physical sexual fluids.
Oh, and the love, if there isn't love, I'd say it's kind of lackluster.
Much confusion here. Sex is what everyone knows and Tantra sex is the prolonging of the sex act. Kundalini is the fusion between the crown and the base of the spine. No emotional love involved it's just raw dynamic energy that can easily destroy the body. There's even a link here to spontaneous combustion. All this kundalini yoga stuff is just Tantra sex. Playing with the 3 energies of kundalini is playing with fire and death!
Raúl Gloo, What is love?
Tantra is not actually sexual yoga in the act of sex. It is to do with trance. Unfortunately, many seekers gurus sadhus etc. have not the gift of celibacy and so have to act out their sexual instincts. Kundalini as the Goddess within and must be served even though it takes you through a time of testing your sexual instincts. Served with meditaion and spiritual practises to grow the soul into a powerful being. There is no turning back once the nectar is tasted but there could be disruption because of the strength of it's awakening power. Sexual freedom and indulgence leads to sexual problems in society. There is no liberation in the sexual act.
Have you seen the Tantra temples with their sexual reliefs in India? LOL
This quote may be of some interest:
"Tantra, Yoga and meditation are just a beginning, like a focus away from the activities of the self and the world. In the stillness and emptiness of just being there comes an expansive, sustained climax that is a union of energies and the dissolving of the corporal state. This is also experienced at the moment of our physical death. If you've had an NDE and was attentive to the initial impact, most people are not, then you will have touched this supreme energetic transition..." dbm.
Yes I have, and they embarrass and disgust me. I have a feeling though, Kashmiri Shaivism is pure and not about sex as S Indian may be but I am not sure. Kundalini is the peak of spiritual experiance in all religions. And a real awakening involves a strengthened will and therefore allows one natural self control over sex alcohol etc. but a disrupted kundalini is hell break loose! I know that kundalini does not occur by sexual intercourse but by intense worship from deep within oneself it comes forth and flourishes.
Kundalini: She can be awakened only by the grace of the true Guru. Unless you meet a true Guru, this cannot be understood. I advise avoiding these practices and try to find a true Guru else practice truth and devotion to your favourite God for leading you to the true Guru.
"I'd been timid and cold
Since Your lotus feet gold
My hands did hold
I've become brave and bold"
www.nathyogi.com
Very good advise. I think there are very few true gurus. But still, we are or were seekers. I have been to a few total 'idots' and wanted to ask them what they take me for? But having resisted, sometimes I have got my message across. Everyone hates being deceived spending hours, even days and weeks of their time risking their health and even great amounts of money. No, kundalini can be awakened by the self innocently, who is to say you are not more gifted then any guru or other ordinary man. Faith and belief are personal; say by someone in the brink of life or illness. They can have an even greater ability to search God within and ask for help in suffering-perhaps it is easier to touch the depths of the soul. And I stress if kundalini is the same as enlightenment then it is the strengthening of the will power. If you have any respect for Hinduism you would deny sex mingled with the religion. I would never part take in what they call 'tantra' nor have I ever done so as I belive this is not a path. And at utmost you should know that celibacy is the way forward in spiritual development; deviating from this is not progress nor good example to the public. You have to take their safety and trust into consideration without intent to violate their bodies.
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