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    Lightbulb What is enlightenment for you?

    What does the word mean? What is that light and what will happen to you if you achieve or reach enlightenment?
    What does someone do who is enlightened?
    And of course: how do you reach enlightenment? Is it possible to make a course in enlightenment?

    To me this word does not have much of a meaning and that is mainly because I heard it from too many dubious people searching for it or claiming to have achieved it.
    If it is something really great, a great spiritual achievement it would be something like being without ego and having left all material attachments.
    Then how can someone who is enlightened have the ego to say himself that he is enlightened when if enlightenment means there is no ego? You cannot say that it is not egoistic to say that you are enlightened because enlightenment is obviously something that you want to achieve, something great...
    Well, I guess it is a confusing word not only for me, so let me hear what you think about it!
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    For me true enlightenment is simply being present. Living in the each moment, conscious of how you are feeling and what if anything you are thinking about, but not allowing any of this to deter you from the moment. I personally feel (from what I’ve seen and experienced) anyone who calls themselves ‘enlightened’ is actually coming from a place of ego, which is not enlightened at all. So many of these Guru’s and Holy people claim to be special b/c they are enlightened and somehow we should look to them for guidance but the truth is as long as you are looking for enlightenment, or searching for answers outside of yourself, you can’t be present, and being present is the only way to ‘live in the light’.

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    Being in Love is enlightenment for me.
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    I too don't really get this word and if you search and look it up you can't get any real straight answers. I think it's a word Spiritual people and guru's have been throwing around to get people to give them money. I do believe if you are so enlightened then why don't you give your secret away so people can live in this peace and happiness. Why sell it? These so called spiritual people take years to become enlightened and even sometimes many lifetimes to become enlightened but they are selling a 4 week course, this makes no sense. I need to ask how can you put a timeline on this and why do you think this will work? I'm interested to know what these courses offer - if someone has taken one of these can you please send me details on how someone can teach you enlightenment? For me enlightenment simply means living in love, doing only what you love and loving everything you do. If you live this way you are completely happy and you can't get any lighter than LOVE!

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    “Love is Light and Light is Love” Love is the true enlightenment of life.

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    A la pregunta que es iluminacion.
    Yo le llamo plenitud, y uso ese termino porque es el que usa el unico maestro que he tenido.
    Iluminacion es una traduccion al ingles de la expresion sanscrita que, al traducirla de nuevo al espaņol, pierde sentido.
    No tengo ninguna experiencia pero si me permiten la opinion de alguien que no sabe casi nada, segun creo la iluminaciion es un estado que se deriva de haber trascendido el sufrimiento

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    mmm - this idea of giving up "material attachments" bothers me ...certainly as something extraneous that you need to get rid of. We are living in the material world after all, and our attachments are only a sign of our emotional affiliation with someone or something. A lot of my own anger towards gurus and spiritual movements comes from almost being forced to give up "material attachments". Even if one is not forced physically, the fervour around these sort of ideas in any movement is difficult to resist. If you are not aspiring to these lofty ideas then you are not considered "enlightened". I think "enlightenement is something much more simple than that. And, from personal experience, I think - more than anything else - you have to be honest with yourself and honest about who you are.

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    A lot of my own anger towards gurus and spiritual movements comes from almost being forced to give up "material attachments".
    You know these Gurus or enlightnment sellers are those who are most attached to material. I have seen many. And to survive in this world you need some material, too. The question is how much is necessary.
    you have to be honest with yourself and honest about who you are.
    Great. You are absolutaly right Alexis, being honest with yourself and with your feelings and also with others is very important for me. I have grown up with a very strong religious, cultural and traditional background and lived a life of Guru. But after leaving this all, i follow 3 principles in my life: honest, direct and clear. Many times I have also faced much difficulties because of these principles but I pray to my God to please mainten these for me in my short life.
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    Thanks Swami Balendu - material attachments included ones family and friends ....this was particularly hard for me and I still have nightmares where I am having to choose between seeing my family and living the "ultimate" spiritual life.

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    I don't think so one has to leave family to live a spiritual life. Why can someone not be spiritual while they love their family, too? Do you think God doesn't like family or he will be angry or jealous if you love your family and friends?
    I never heard god saying "if you love me then stop loving your family". Maybe this is more likely the idea of a sect that wants to have fully dedicated followers who serve only and only them and don't share their love with anybody else.
    But God would not be like this.
    Why can we not see God in our family members? He can be there in form of family and friends, too.
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